Belt up in the back!!

I am very sorry to hear that Spirit - your brother was very unlucky - but it is still not the norm over here.....did he have the choice to belt up in the back?

My daughter's godmother was walking on a mountain path in Italy with six other people - she put her foot on a glacier and fell 700 ft and the friend behind her tried to save her, but went with her....should we ban people walking around mountains?
where does it stop.....We are born with a free will and are able to do thing freely - so we should be responsible for the consequences - cottonwool land is not a good place to be!!!! we have had many heros - now what is the norm??? Children too scared to move for fear of falling over?

missed the point Karma, your daughters god mother chose to walk on a mountain, her friend chose to try and save her. Both made a chose, both knew the dangers of mountain walking, if they did not want to do it then they didn't have to.

Not belting in the the back seat takes the chose of the front seat passenger away. The front seat passenger says I want to be safe, so I belt up, back seat passenger says I want a choice, the back seat passenger then puts the front seat passenger in danger. Now if the back seat passenger said to the front seat passenger "do you mind if I do not belt up" and the front seat pass' says " no prob'" then they have both made a choice.

The discussion is not whether we should be wrapped in cotton wool but should we consider others, front seat passenger, police and ambulance who have to clean up the mess. To say it may or may not happen is neither here nor there. Think outside of the box and forget about over regulation this is about safety and not only your safety but the safety of others.

Spirit, it is more about education not laws - regulation just criminalises the action (or lack of action)

Over regulate and inevitably the ordinary citizen breaks the law by accident or deliberately to make a point.And we are,for sure,overly regulated in every aspect of our lives. :x

bug1 wrote:................Leave it to the Polititians.They get it right every time :-)

Oh really!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ha-ha..............right!! Of course they do!





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Well what can we say? we voted them in didn't we???? Well no actually, we voted as we are directed, parish by parish!!! I wonder how Civil Servants are directed to vote - I suspect in the direction that their bread is buttered - and there are a lot of them!!!! Sorry I forgot to take my anti-cynic pill today :x

It's time Peter Derham got out of his pulpit!

I'll second that!!!!

It's time Peter Derham got out of his pulpit!

Forget the pulpit aspect, forget regulations and being told what to do, One question, is he right or is he wrong. (Make it two questions)

No one has really given a reasonable argument against the freedom of chose aspect, you know, where your selfish chose in the back seats screws my life in the front seats.

bug1 wrote:Over regulate and inevitably the ordinary citizen breaks the law by accident or deliberately to make a point.And we are,for sure,overly regulated in every aspect of our lives. :x

Which gives those that like to dictate to us a perfect opportunity to rake in even more money in fines.

Like the rest of Europe, we are already over regulated and over controlled - without all these controls over our lives, we would not need the top heavy States, Police and administration! Cry freedom!

Listening to the news in Jersey last night they want to reduce the speed limit from 40 to 30 on the coast road because a young girl was involved in an accident and was badly hurt . We would all agree we would not want anybody to be involved in an accident but it is a fact of life i am afraid .

I don't know how long the current speed limits have been operational in Jersey but i would hazard a guess its been years , when the old style cars were roaming the streets you remember the ones ...you had to pump the brakes just to stop , but with recent technology cars are able to stop in a lot shorter distances than before , Ok it doesn't make them safe but what it does do is minimises the risk.

As for rear seat belts i would say it should be up the driver of the vehicle to make that decision .

After compulsary rear seatbelts are made law, the next measure is to 'bubble wrap' ALL occupants of all vehicles to improve safety to the citizens! Ha...... come the revolution!!!!

Does no one see the advantages of seatbelts in the rear or are we all too worried about over regulation?

I see the sense - but IMO regulation is not the way to go - education is - I for one always belt up in the back as I have taken note of those gruesome adverts on the TV - nuff said!!!