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Post by GD on Fri 07 Dec 2012, 5:10 pm

Sarkees are worried about the influence the Barclay brothers have on the island.

30% of islanders who responded to the Sark Perception Survey raised the issue.

Other concerns included the cost of living and the influence of outsiders on the island.

In contrast, more than half the 225 responses cited community spirit as what made Sark special.



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Post by kingcolemk on Sat 08 Dec 2012, 9:25 am

I am surprised that there has, so far, been no hint of any comment on this issue in the current Island Parish programmes. Or indeed any mention whatever of the Barclays.

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Post by Thistle on Sat 08 Dec 2012, 6:40 pm

why should there be kingcole.was any mention made in island hospital about how much trouble our health minister is in or that the wonderful hospital as shown on island hospital costs islanders to use it ..maybe it mentioned the two tier system..
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Post by Thistle on Sat 08 Dec 2012, 6:42 pm

the barclays will not be happy until sark belongs to them...its such a shame as it is a beautiful island ..the way of life is so peaceful and without bloney vineyards the counrtyside is beautiful.
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Post by kingcolemk on Sat 08 Dec 2012, 6:47 pm

Your health minister is not in any trouble, on the contrary he has just negotiated a price cut with Southampton hospital to tide you over the rest of the year. You do not pay for in-patient treatment and your out-patient treatment is heavily subsidised to keep it at affordable for everyone.

This sytem means you are getting a far better service than we are from the NHS in the UK.

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Post by Thistle on Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:01 pm

how is out patient heavily subidised kingcole..people pay for gp treatment,a&e ,ambulance,physio unless sent by a specialist ..i could go on and on..our health minister is in more trouble than you are ever likely to understand as a uk resident..island hospital doesnt tell the whole story of healthcare in guernsey.by the way guernsey people pay social security contributions to fund in hospital treatment. operations are still being cancelled on island,a ward has been closed completely,staff are being moved around from pillar to post..it seems you think this is ok..well as a resident i dont.
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Post by kingcolemk on Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:57 pm

If there was no subsidy you would never be able to afford the true value of all the services you mention.

To have my ears cleaned out privately over here cost me 180.

My last visit to a GP in Guernsey about 8 years ago cost me 36 and included an x-ray and scan at the hospital. I suppose it is a bit more now, but I dread to think what that would cost in the UK outside of the NHS, several hundreds of pounds at least.

You should be grateful for having one of the best and cheapest health services in Europe.

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Post by Thistle on Sat 08 Dec 2012, 8:36 pm

seems you know more than we do kingcole..there are old age pensioners here who cant afford to go to the doctors you havent got that prob in uk do you x
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Post by kingcolemk on Sat 08 Dec 2012, 8:51 pm

Maybe but they probably have to wait a week or two to get to see a doctor. Unless it is very urgent.

I am sure that nobody in Guernsey who was seriously in need of medical attention would be turned away.

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Post by kat on Sat 08 Dec 2012, 9:06 pm

They would not go in the first place as they could not pay and if you owe any money to the docs you cannot get an appointment
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Post by Thistle on Sun 09 Dec 2012, 9:00 am

the doctors here even take people to court for payments outstanding whether they can afford it or not.yes we can see a doctor fairly quickly but you forget that we cant see a specialist unless we see a doctor first that incurs a cost.then you have to wait for a couple months to see a specialist ..you can be rushed into a&e because you are in need of urgent attention and that can cost varying amounts of cash ..i know when i was taken in as an emergency it cost me over 180 at a&e before i was put on a ward and that was almost 7 years ago..an ambulance to get you to hospital if you cant afford to pay the ambulance insurance is over 200 one way.
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Post by kat on Sun 09 Dec 2012, 9:26 am

thanks fully i have an insurance ,this cover me only for a certain amount of money. it wont pay any specialist fees and runs out fast
i am allowed one journey in a ambulance ,so i also pay my ambulance ticket . i have always paid for this since they came out as my dad used to sell them at home as he was in St Johns .
I made an appointment for the specialist so I could see him early it cost me 130 pounds for a 10 min visit and extra if i was in longer
I got the appointment easy as is was a private one.
did me no good as i was told i have to pay the 8 thousand pounds for the operation .
The states would not help even though it would have saved them many pounds in later treatment .
I know many elderly who still pay for the docs themselves because they have an added pension from when their late hubbys were in the armed forces..so much for fighting and serving your country !
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Post by kingcolemk on Sun 09 Dec 2012, 9:35 am

I don't know why you live in Guernsey Thistle, you critcise everything and everybody. I reckon Guernsey looks after you and your daughter very well indeed. You should be more appreciative of what you have.

If you want free health care ( and all the horrors that brings ) maybe you should move back to Scotland.

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Post by trucker on Sun 09 Dec 2012, 12:48 pm

Scotland has a good health service at the moment. If you think ours is bad move to the good ole usa where many people die for want of mediction. I have been in ill heaith for sometime now and the NHS in Scotland have been great. What a shame we are being inunated with incomers just for the health care.
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Post by Thistle on Sun 09 Dec 2012, 6:21 pm

kingcole what right have you to tell me where to live ..i choose to live in guernsey because i can and because it is my home..unlike you who feels the need to criticize everything i say or do maybe you should just stop whingeing about how bad u have it in england..you know nothing about what my daughter or myself gets as you put it from guernsey..you dont have to care for somebody 24/7 and will never ever have to.i agree with trucker there are more and more incomers moving to scotland because the health care is better than you have in england so maybe you should just keep quiet about something you know very little about .after all you are only ever a visitor to guernsey ..by the way to see the doctor now would cost you as an outsider about 60 plus any tests you needed done would be extra
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Post by kingcolemk on Sun 09 Dec 2012, 7:41 pm

I'm not telling you where to live, just suggesting you could move if you wanted to. I have every sympathy for your daughter and admiration for the way you look after her, but you do, quite rightly, get help from Guernsey.

As for the medical charges for visitors, quite right too, should be more.

I don't whinge about having it bad in the UK because I'm doing fine thank you. But there are things I would like to see changed, including the health service and immigration.

Remember I have been a regular vistor to Guernsey for more than 50 years, so I do know a bit about the place.

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Post by Thistle on Sun 09 Dec 2012, 8:40 pm

i have lived here for over 40 years kingcole so not just a newcomer..we dont get the help you seem to think we do ..our beloved hssd minister has seen to that
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Post by kat on Mon 10 Dec 2012, 9:41 am

I have live in Guernsey all my life , and the way of life is very expensive ,but i would not live anywhere else
Our hospital is the cleanest i have seen
i went to Jersey hospital with my daughter ,that was also very good efficient and clean
I had to go to St Mary in Portsmouth years ago. the place was filthy .cockroaches in the babies cots . and fire door locked so thieves would not come in.one night someone broke in and stole the tv from the babies ward
the care was super .the food was ok . but nothing compared to the first class treatment you get from our hospital.
The programme they show on tv shows it as it is . like a top hotel. many go to the restaurant for their meals from outside the hospital because it is top food and is cheap.
We are very lucky to have this .but it was here like this well before Hunter became minister. so he cannot take the glory for it
but he can take the blame for the loss of funds as he is at the forefront and should take the blame for it all
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