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‘Untold damage’ if incinerator gets back in

Post by GD on Tue 09 Mar 2010, 12:03 pm





AN ATTEMPT to overturn the decision to scrap the incinerator could do ‘untold damage’ to the credibility of the States, according to one campaigner.
Public Services Department member Deputy Tony Spruce has tabled a motion calling for the £93.5m. Suez proposal to be voted on again. He said the vote in last month’s meeting, which saw the plans thrown out by a majority of just one, was undemocratic because members of the Environment Department abstained following legal advice.
However, Rupert Dorey (pictured) said he deplored the decision and thought it could damage Guernsey’s political reputation.
‘While the Suez proposal was just a commercial contract, the Spruce requete could undermine the whole basis of good government.’
In their meeting yesterday, the Policy Council decided the requete would be discussed at the March States meeting. If the States supported the motion it would mean the Suez proposals would go ahead as originally planned.
Mr Dorey is the spokesman for a consortium of ‘key local residents’ who committed to using their own money to fight the Suez proposals in the courts. He said they would carry on that campaign if the plans were reinstated.(from thisisguernsey)

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Post by plimmerton811 on Tue 09 Mar 2010, 4:51 pm

Lets just keep voting till everyone gets the decision they want!!!

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Post by GD on Tue 09 Mar 2010, 6:32 pm



Dear All



Deputy Tony Spruce Requete - Survey



Deputy Tony Spruce is putting forward a Requete that, if successful, will overturn last month's States decision (by one vote) to reject the Suez proposal; reinstating them as the preferred bidder.



However the Requete goes on to say Paragraph 9:



"Your Petitioners believe that it is in the interest of the States to revisit the question of whether the Suez option for the design, build and operation of a residual waste treatment facility as previously agreed, is the most appropriate solution for Guernsey as soon as practicable. And with a view to there being full participation of all Members of the States in reaching such an important decision"



Our reading of this is that not only will the Spruce Requete reinstate the preferred bidder it also seems to suggest that the States then go on to redebate the solution.





So what do you think? Please take our survey*



http://survey.submarine.gg/takeSurvey.asp?surveyID=110



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Post by Cassandra on Thu 18 Mar 2010, 1:11 am

i hope it's gone forever

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Post by boatyboy on Thu 18 Mar 2010, 3:31 pm

Is this what Guernsey wants ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9kvsgCC5-g

Jersey in Peril


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Post by Spirit on Fri 02 Apr 2010, 4:57 pm

Lucky that we didn't get into bed with Suez

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Post by Digger on Fri 02 Apr 2010, 7:33 pm

Interesting reading .Good riddance i say.


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Post by bug1 on Fri 02 Apr 2010, 8:17 pm

Quote "Lucky that we didn't get into bed with Suez"
Regret to say but most multinationals are tainted this way.Very few would come up smelling of roses!
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Post by kingcolemk on Fri 02 Apr 2010, 8:34 pm

OK you've got your way. BUT has any one of you got a sensible, practical, economic alternative, cos I haven't seen one on here.

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Post by Thistle on Fri 02 Apr 2010, 9:45 pm

send our rubbish to jersey.with the size of the incinerator they are building they will have to import rubbish from wherever to keep it burning at its maximum capacity
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Post by karma on Fri 02 Apr 2010, 11:37 pm

Why should we, the electorate, be expected to come up with sensible ideas? surely that is up to the politicians we elected to represent us in a sensible way and listen to what we don't want and come up with something we do want.......after all they are paid by us and their purchasing power is funded by us - besides, any fool could see that SUEZ would have been far too large and costly for our needs - not to mention being extremely ugly to boot!!!
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Post by kingcolemk on Sat 03 Apr 2010, 9:31 am

Thistle wrote:send our rubbish to jersey.with the size of the incinerator they are building they will have to import rubbish from wherever to keep it burning at its maximum capacity

In order to do that the rubbish would have to be brought into Town or St Sampson for loading onto boats for shipment to Jersey. Now take a ride up Chout headland and imagine that mess at a loading point in one of the harbours.

Urrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggggg !

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Post by bug1 on Sat 03 Apr 2010, 3:08 pm

St Sampson's it is then!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Spirit on Sat 03 Apr 2010, 3:32 pm

Why would it make a mess at the harbour? The rubbish would be containerised.


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Post by kingcolemk on Sun 04 Apr 2010, 10:50 am

Then you would have huge smelly containers driving through Town and St Sampson followed by hoardes of screeching seagulls. Secondly where would the rubbish be containerised ?

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Post by Spirit on Sun 04 Apr 2010, 12:09 pm

They transport the stuff like that in the rest of the world, why would we have a problem?


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Post by kat on Sun 04 Apr 2010, 12:42 pm

It would be bailed first then transport to Jersey ,it would need a license to take it there .
This could be done with minimum mess .as we would have a bailer the rubbish would be sorted first and any recycles taken out .
other places in the world have been doing this for years.
a deep water berth might be needed to upload the stuff ,this would have been built at the reclaimed land at St Sampson.
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