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Black sack refuse charge proposed

Post by GD on Wed 24 Jun 2009, 1:47 pm

Residents in a Guernsey parish could be charged for each black sack of rubbish they leave out for collection.
The douzaine of St Martin's, Mike Torode, said the scheme could encourage more recycling in the parish.
The black bags would be sold by the douzaine, with parishioners paying for the bags they disposed of, rather than paying a flat charge.
People who wanted to save money by using fewer bags could either create less waste, or recycling more.
The scheme has been proposed as an alternative to kerbside recycling.
I wonder how they will control State Houses?


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Post by Spirit on Wed 24 Jun 2009, 2:13 pm

Just do what half of St Martin's residents do already and drop the rubbish on the St Peter Port piles on the way to work.


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Post by plimmerton811 on Wed 24 Jun 2009, 8:51 pm

This works in other countries. Council supply bags via retailers at a cost and you only pay for the rubbish you get rid of. Does encourage recycling which incidently should be tied in by way of kerb side collections on the same day as the rubbish is taken. Certainly makes you more responsible about the rubbish you are disposing.

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Post by Thistle on Wed 24 Jun 2009, 8:53 pm

i already recycle everything i am able to.i put out half a sack of food waste and non recyclables in a week.
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Post by schoolyjo on Wed 24 Jun 2009, 10:08 pm

sorry but i dont re-cycle, i put out 3-4 bin sacks a week and they can increase what they like i will still put out 3-4 sacks a week. and yes i still pay 5p a carrier bag at the supermarket every week i buy at least 10.
i dont buy alcohol or cigs, i dont eat meat, i shop at the charity shop when i can i bake all my own cakes, cookies etc but as for re-cycling havent caught that bug yet or jumped on that bandwagon!

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Post by Fast Robert on Thu 25 Jun 2009, 8:28 am

would you do more if there was a doorstep collection? You're not the only one that says this. I reckon kerbside would encourage far more people to do a cursory sort before black bagging things.
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Post by karma on Thu 25 Jun 2009, 9:00 am

I try to imagine on our small pavements what the island would look like if we had piles of stuff outside our houses for collection....the pavements are hardly wide enough for two people to pass each other - especially if the are in a wheelchair or pushing a pram - in Australia where this is done on a regular basis there is enough room - every town house has a nature strip in front of there house which does not block the pavement and the people leave the stuff on these (it still does not look very nice even in a large country) .... I am happy to do my bit for my kids and grandchildren (not the powers that be) I would hate to leave them with the legacy of a huge 10 storey building on the piece of land that people arriving by boat see first.....Jersey's is ugly enough and now needs replacing (mind you I suppose if it's not in your back yard i.e. St Sampsons or don't use the ferry service it won't bother you or yours - so indeed no need to recycle to try and keep our island beautiful)
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Post by plimmerton811 on Thu 25 Jun 2009, 9:25 pm

The idea of charging for the refuse sacks is to perhaps encourage schooly to separate waste from recyclable stuff. As to the amount out on the pavement, well schooly puts her 4 bags out anyway, like most people, so the amount on the pavement shouldn't change too much it will just be in different bags..

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Post by schoolyjo on Thu 25 Jun 2009, 9:40 pm

but i dont want to seperate my stuff!!

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Post by plimmerton811 on Fri 26 Jun 2009, 5:46 am

You don't have to separate your stuff, your choice, but you would have to buy bags to put your stuff into, and they get expensive. ASfter a time you may decide to get the bug or jump on the bandwagon to save yourself 2-3 quid a week.

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Post by schoolyjo on Fri 26 Jun 2009, 9:31 am

no trust me i`ll pay the 2-3 quid a week

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Post by Fast Robert on Fri 26 Jun 2009, 10:10 am

Then we should introduce fines as in Germany. Wrong stuff in the wrong bag - get a ticket.
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Post by karma on Fri 26 Jun 2009, 10:25 am

I thought it was mainly about saving our Island for future generations - not saving money .... but perhaps I got it all wrong.....
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Post by Fast Robert on Fri 26 Jun 2009, 1:18 pm

no Karma, you are right, but people need to be told the benefits in monetary terms because thinking about the future is for ecoterrorists and mentalists.
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Post by karma on Fri 26 Jun 2009, 2:28 pm

'thinking about the future is for ecoterrorists and mentalists' ----- and presumably people who don't give a xxxx about the island and the generations to come :x sad!!!!
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Post by cockney on Sun 19 Jul 2009, 8:02 pm

This is just another excuse to get more money out of us, another stealth tax. We already pay to have our rubbish removed. The states should use this money more wisely instead of hitting us in the pocket again.

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Post by Thistle on Sun 19 Jul 2009, 9:00 pm

i thought they were going to charge for bin sacks and do away with the parish rubbish rate charge .as i only put one bnag out a week i would be quids in .
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