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Post by GD on Wed 21 Oct 2009, 3:35 pm

LOCAL legislation needs to be changed to prevent 14-year-olds from riding motorbikes, according to a health report released yesterday.
Public health director Stephen Bridgman made the recommendation following the high number of young motorcyclists hospitalised between 1997 and 2008.
During the period, 87 14-year-olds, 67 15-year-olds and 38 16-year-olds were admitted to accident and emergency following a road traffic accident involving a motorbike.
‘There is a major risk in young people riding motorbikes,’ said Dr Bridgman.
‘It indicates that there is a need to come into line with other countries.’
He said the figures presented a stark picture.
‘To protect young people I think we should seriously look at the issues around motorbikes and consider other means of transport.’
The report’s other recommendations included measures to tackle obesity and alcohol abuse.
One of these was to tackle how high energy foods were marketed, by considering a tax on foods that were associated with obesity.
In a Guernsey Healthy Lifestyle Survey completed in 2008, one in five men and close to one in five women, were obese.
Two thirds of women aged 55 to 64 were overweight or obese. (from thisisguernsey)

I can agree with raising the bike riding laws but the rest... unworkable....


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Post by Thistle on Wed 21 Oct 2009, 3:44 pm

here we go again.why cant these peeps get on with their own lives.mind you i guess the states would benefit from getting rid of duty free.maybe the new director of health should see what he can do to stop peeps sticking there noses into other peoples lives.must be wonderful to be as perfect as he is.i laughed when i heard him say on the radio he didnt like duty free goods beinf shoved down his childrens throats when they are travelling.easy dont let your kids in the duty free shop.

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Post by Thistle on Wed 21 Oct 2009, 3:45 pm

ps i do agree about the motor bike part of the plan x

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Post by technophobe on Wed 21 Oct 2009, 6:23 pm

I wish this guy would go and pester somebody else with his clean-living attitude.

We grew up over here on motorbikes and cheap booze and fags, and unless we want the economy to get much worse through the loss of duty, increased cost of pensions due to people living longer etc, that's the way we should continue!!

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Post by Deebay on Wed 21 Oct 2009, 10:01 pm

Guernsey cream, milk, cheese... oh, and not to mention gache melaie, will all get expensive. Don't you love it when the government tells you what's good for you?

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Post by bug1 on Wed 21 Oct 2009, 10:54 pm

No risk,No life.When are these clowns going to realise that risk is part of life.Without it we have no protection from events as we grow older.Future generations will believe that the"Powers to be"
will protect them from all ills.They'll walk off the harbour wall because somebody has left a gap in the railings,they'll step onto the crossing knowing that legislation will protect them but never,ever think for themselves.

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Post by plimmerton811 on Thu 22 Oct 2009, 3:25 am

Public health director Stephen Bridgman made the recommendation following the high number of young motorcyclists hospitalised between 1997 and 2008.
During the period, 87 14-year-olds, 67 15-year-olds and 38 16-year-olds were admitted to accident and emergency following a road traffic accident involving a motorbike.


Can't argue with those figures, but if he is using them I would like to see the figures for other ages to see what the comparatives are. Also how many of those accidents were due to the motor cyclist and how many were due to the other party.
But I would add that now 14 is too young, perhaps in years gone by it was acceptable with fewer cars on the road.

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Post by bug1 on Thu 22 Oct 2009, 5:11 pm

plimmerton811 wrote:Public health director Stephen Bridgman made the recommendation following the high number of young motorcyclists hospitalised between 1997 and 2008.
During the period, 87 14-year-olds, 67 15-year-olds and 38 16-year-olds were admitted to accident and emergency following a road traffic accident involving a motorbike.


Can't argue with those figures, but if he is using them I would like to see the figures for other ages to see what the comparatives are. Also how many of those accidents were due to the motor cyclist and how many were due to the other party.
But I would add that now 14 is too young, perhaps in years gone by it was acceptable with fewer cars on the road.

Can't argue with the figures!!!!!!!!!!Never heard of the expression."Lies,damned lies and statistics"
I would like to know the figures for pushbikes in the relevant age group? And don't forget the "Authorities"would send you to A&E even if you only need an elastoplast!(To cover their arses in our blame society)

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Post by Spirit on Thu 22 Oct 2009, 5:43 pm

Bread Kills!


1. More than 98 percent of convicted felons are bread users.
2. Fully HALF of all children who grow up in bread-consuming households score below average on standardized tests.
3. In the 18th century, when virtually all bread was baked in the home, the average life expectancy was less than 50 years; infant mortality rates were unacceptably high; many women died in childbirth; and diseases such as typhoid, yellow fever, and influenza ravaged whole nations.
4. Every piece of bread you eat brings you nearer to death.
5. Bread is associated with all the major diseases of the body. For example, nearly all sick people have eaten bread. The effects are obviously cumulative:

  • 99.9% of all people who die from cancer have eaten bread.
  • 100% of all soldiers have eaten bread.
  • 96.9% of all Communist sympathizers have eaten bread.
  • 99.7% of the people involved in air and auto accidents ate bread within 6 months preceding the accident.
  • 93.1% of juvenile delinquents came from homes where bread is served frequently.

6. Evidence points to the long-term effects of bread eating: Of all people born before 1839 who later dined on bread, there has been a 100% mortality rate.
7. Bread is made from a substance called "dough." It has been proven that as little as a teaspoon of dough can be used to suffocate a lab rat. The average American eats more bread than that in one day!
8. Primitive tribal societies that have no bread exhibit a low incidence of cancer, Alzheimer's, Parkinson's disease, and osteoporosis.
9. Bread has been proven to be addictive. Subjects deprived of bread and being fed only water begged for bread after as little as two days.
10. Bread is often a "gateway" food item, leading the user to "harder" items such as butter, jelly, peanut butter, and even cold cuts.
11. Bread has been proven to absorb water. Since the human body is more than 90 percent water, it follows that eating bread could lead to your body being taken over by this absorptive food product, turning you into a soggy, gooey bread-pudding person.
12. Newborn babies can choke on bread.
13. Bread is baked at temperatures as high as 400 degrees Fahrenheit! That kind of heat can kill an adult in less than one minute.
14. Most bread eaters are utterly unable to distinguish between significant scientific fact and meaningless statistical babbling.

In light of these frightening statistics, we propose the following bread restrictions:
1. No sale of bread to minors.

2. A nationwide "Just Say No To Toast" campaign, complete celebrity TV spots and bumper stickers.

3. A 300 percent tax on all bread to pay for all the societal ills we might associate with bread.

4. No animal or human images, nor any primary colours (which may appeal to children) may be used to promote bread usage.

5. The establishment of "Bread-free" zones around schools.


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Post by Zac on Thu 22 Oct 2009, 6:24 pm

Any truth in story that the Direktor der öffentlichen Gesundheit is seeking to impose a fatty-tax on fish&chips and banning 14 and under from standing within 50 metres of the extractor fan outlets at chip shops, in case the fumes are fattening?

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Post by bug1 on Thu 22 Oct 2009, 7:13 pm

Brilliant! Spirit.
Probably Zac

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Post by plimmerton811 on Fri 23 Oct 2009, 4:09 am

That's a good one spirit.
I thought that I had found a flaw in the arguement, apparently 98% of those that died after eating bread also breathed air, so perhaps it was a combination of both that killed them. However the 2% that held their breath and didn't eat bread also died therefore it goes to prove that if you eat bread you will die whether or not you hold your breath or don't hold your breath.

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Post by cockney on Fri 23 Oct 2009, 9:47 pm

14 year olds are still children and should not be allowed to ride motorbikes. I would take it further and raise the age for a driving licence to 21.

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Post by technophobe on Sat 24 Oct 2009, 12:16 pm

cockney wrote:14 year olds are still children and should not be allowed to ride motorbikes. I would take it further and raise the age for a driving licence to 21.


So let me get this right; you can get married, have children, vote, join the army, drink alcohol, smoke cigarettes etc, but what you musn't do is ride a motorbike or drive a car??

Get real.

This character can clear off as far as I'm concerned, I had a Kawasaki KE100 when I was 14, my mates had TSs, GPs, RXSs, MTXs etc, and it was brilliant having the freedom to buzz around on them.

Why don't we just ban everything that's any fun? Then we can all live to 100 in abject misery, just like the boring feckers who suggest most of these measures.

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Post by cockney on Sun 25 Oct 2009, 3:01 am

technophobe wrote:
cockney wrote:14 year olds are still children and should not be allowed to ride motorbikes. I would take it further and raise the age for a driving licence to 21.


So let me get this right; you can get married, have children, vote, join the army, drink alcohol, smoke cigarettes etc, but what you musn't do is ride a motorbike or drive a car??
Not at 14 you cant, not legally anyway. Get real.
Get real.

This character can clear off as far as I'm concerned, I had a Kawasaki KE100 when I was 14, my mates had TSs, GPs, RXSs, MTXs etc, and it was brilliant having the freedom to buzz around on them. You and your mates probably 'buzzed' around the island at high speed and undertook other vehicles where overtaking wasnt possible creating noise pollution along the way having tampered with your exhausts to get maximum volume.

Why don't we just ban everything that's any fun? Then we can all live to 100 in abject misery, just like the boring feckers who suggest most of these measures.
Time and again we see young peoples attitude to the rules of the road and other road users exposed in the magistrates court, we also see these attitudes on a daily basis when the more law abiding of us drive within the laws. You only have to ask any young person how much insurance they pay to see what the insurance companies think of their driving/riding skills. The trouble is young people pass a test and within a month, possibly less, they think they are experts and proceed to travel around the island as if they are on a race track with total disregard for anyone who dares to share the same bit of road as them. Travelling at high speed on Guernseys little roads isnt fun, its dangerous. Now and again young people tragically lose their lives while driving/riding on the roads and almost every time speed is the cause. The worse thing is when an innocent bystander loses their life because of the actions of a young driver/rider. Young people still continue to drive at speed even after someone loses their life due to speeding. This shows an immaturity that should be taken into account when the powers that be decide on an appropriate age for someone to be allowed to drive a motorised vehicle on the roads.

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